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#21 Luciana

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:37 PM

I was hoping that after I watched the movie I would be coming to the bromance thread to say how much I enjoyed Silver Doe - my favourite chapter EVER!
However, unfortunately I feel like I don't have much to add as H/R conversation after the locket is destroyed was completely butchered.
Anyone else felt robbed of this wonderful H/R moment that enhances their friendship so wonderfully?


Yeah, I know what you mean. :( Harry was so cold with Ron!! He was like "ah... it's you" I mean: Ron has just saved your life!! Be grateful!!!!!
Totally out of character.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 12:46 AM

Did Ron say "You're the boss." in the diner to Harry in the book? I don't remember reading it but I thought that was a nice little touch in the movie.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 09:34 PM

Anyone else felt robbed of this wonderful H/R moment that enhances their friendship so wonderfully?

Totally! That was one of the scenes I waited the most. And it sucked. It was so awkward between them after destroying the locket. None of that was in the book. Harry didn't explain that they were just friends between Hermione, Ron didn't break down, they didn't make up, no hug, no nothing. I was really disappointed.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 06:56 PM

I agree. It just completely ruined the whole of the Silver Doe for me, which is a shame since otherwise I thought it was pretty spot on. And I will never, ever forgive WB for sacrificing the most beautiful friendhip moment of the series, IMO, for a comic one-liner which was totally inappropriate to the situation.
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Posted 05 December 2010 - 11:53 PM

To be honest. I've been so troubled by the way the WB has treated the Ron/Harry friendship that I've avoided coming to this thread since the movie came out. I just don't see where they are going with the story line in how it relates to these two. Ron is Harry's brother... Harry is Ron's brother... that's how strong the bond was in the books and that was solidified more than ever in the Silver Doe chapter. The movie portrayl of these two has always been disheartening and disapointing.

I don't know if there is any chance to rectify that at all in DH Part 2. I did appreciate the moment early in DH Part 1 when Harry was going to leave on his own and Ron stopped him. I thought that was a real step in the right direction...unfortunately the WB dropped the ball.
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Posted 06 December 2010 - 12:05 AM

I agree, as I also thought the movie was going to put a bit more emphasis on H/R early on. Ron's the one Harry hugs first in Privet Drive, and he's also the one who stops Harry from leaving while at The Burrow.
Everything seemed to point in the right direction and I truly thought we were going to have that Silver Doe conversation between them.
Unfortunately, the lack of this moment has truly ruined the movie for me. This part was too important to leave it out.
Even though we saw improvement in regards to R/Hr, the fact that H/R and H/G relationships are still so cold and underdeveloped left me quite sad and cheated.
I truly hope H/R deep friendship is shown in part 2, otherwise I have a feeling I won't be seeing the movies much once the story is completely told.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 11:15 PM

I agree with both of you. The beginning was perfect, just too good to be true almost, with Ron hugging Harry first then Harry asking him to accompany him...
then they had to go and ruin it.
And unforunately I doubt we'll get more moments to make up for it in part 2. There isn't really a significant canon moment I can remember (please correct me if I'm mistaken) between Ron and Harry since everything's so full on, and what are the chances of WB adding an extra scene just to build their frienship? I mean, if it were adding a scene to show non-existent feelings between two characters then sure, but just to demonstrate a deep character-defining friendship between the hero and his best friend - why bother? :rolleyes: <_<

I do apologise for my cynicism, but you know what it's like.
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Posted 06 December 2010 - 11:51 PM

I absolutely agree. Even if I want to remain hopeful about H/R in the 2nd part, that won't happen unless we get a non-canon moment which strengthens their friendship - Maybe something about Ron saving Harry (again) while in the room of requirement?
I hardly doubt it though, as they will be running away continuously to have the time to sit down and have a chat.
I feel so disheartened about missing out on such a wonderful H/R moment as SD was!

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:00 AM

I know, as melodramatic as it sounds, it really did ruin the movie a bit for me. I think I could even have forgiven them for Malfoy Manor had they got the Silver Doe right, but that one thing... I don't know, it just represented a series worth of character/relationship mistreatment which we haven't quite seen the back of.

Ugh, I'm going to stop being so pessimistic now.
I'm looking forward to trio moments in DH2 anyway, let's just hope they don't do an HBP at the end...
Ahem. I'll start again. DH2 will be awesome. Whatever happens. Yeah. :)
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:06 AM

Don't worry Katharine. I don't think you are being melodramatic about it AL ALL (maybe because I'm being such too? lol)
It was an extremely important moment for H/R - THE BEST one by far imo. And I think it's completely normal for us to feel sad about such wonderful conversation being ommited.
Oh well, we'll always have that moment in the book, won't we?? :yesyes:

We should have a good moment in DH part 2 too. I hope they keep Ron's line to Draco 'This is the second time we save your life tonight'. Not exactly H/R exclusively though, but quite close, as now Ron is confident about his abilities, has won his girl, and doesn't feel second to anyone any more. :)

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:12 AM

You are very right, Vida.

I'm hoping for some kick-a*s Ron in this movie.
In fact, I'm hoping for some kick-a*s Weasley's in general. "NOT MY DAUGHTER YOU B*TCH!" is sure to make everything better :)

(And Jon, if you're reading this, notice I was extra careful in my typing of 'kick' :P)
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:29 AM

Oh yes, please, I'm begging!!! Molly Weasley's phrase HAS TO be included. She is the one who needs to kill Bellatrix, not anyone else. She was not only defending Ginny there, but also avenging Fred. A mother's rage is to be expected!!!

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:13 AM

I know this might be out of place here but we don't really have a Harry and Neville thread.

I always thought it was interesting that Harry is called "the Boy who Lived" when Voldemort could have just as easily according to prophecy chosen to kill Neville, so Neville in a way, was also "the Boy who Lived" and isn't it intersting that it's the second "Boy who lived" who destroys the final horcrux in Nagini. I've always wondered why it was that JKR chose a different person to destroy each horcrux and why she chose Neville specifically to destroy the final horcrux.

I kind of feel like Neville get's overlooked by many people in the Harry Potter story, but he really does play such a vital part throughout the books.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 03:59 AM

You are always bringing out interesting topics, Jon. :)

I think Neville is purposedly overlooked by JK Rowling (much like Voldemort does) throughout the series as she didn't really want to bring much attention to him until OotP...
However, the fact that it was Neville the one to kill Nagini in the end, makes you really think if he wouldn't have been as skilled as Harry had he been the one to be marked as an equal by Voldemort.
It was only in Voldemort's mind to feel more threatened by the half-blood than the pure-blood, as it looks like both boys would have lived up to the challenge regardless.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 06:53 PM

I love Neville, and he's another character who doesn't seem to get the admiration he deserves. As much as I adore Luna, I think Neville is both more interesting and more important to the series, whereas the movies and some areas of fandom would seem to suggest otherwise. Neville and Luna are pretty much equal as both Harry's friends and contributors to the story, but I don't think enough focus is placed on Neville by fans for his almost-chosen status, and I regret that his storyline has been pretty much left out of the movies.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:48 PM

I absolutely agree. Neville, even when overlooked, is quite important very early on.
I compare him to Ron in the sense that neither of them were very confident about their own abilities at the beginning of the series.
However, both boys grew up to become heroes as the story thickened. Neville is so important that, by the end of the series, he is a Professor at Hogwarts - and we know that not many people are qualified enough to become such (except for Lockhart, perhaps :D). Even Trelawney showed to be up to the challenge of being the Divination teacher in the end...
I would not be surprised if we get confirmation from Rowling that Neville will some day become the Headmaster of the school.
He's not only academic but has also been in the field, much like Dumbledore or McGonagall. :)

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 06:51 PM

I would absolutely love for Neville to become Headmaster!

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 12:45 AM

You can vote for Ron and Harry here:
http://www.buzzsugar...0-Poll-12379214

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Posted 18 December 2010 - 02:07 AM

You can vote for Ron and Harry here:
http://www.buzzsugar.com/Best-Male-Friends-From-Movies-2010-Poll-12379214


Thanks for the link, Luciana!
Voted, and I'm glad H/R are winning for such a large margin. They are THE BEST (although I was tempted to vote for Woody and Buzz too! :P )

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 12:38 AM

Just because I love the boys, and their friendship! :yesyes:

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