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Not complete lack of sleep, I'm not getting the necessary sleep I should (which is 6-7 hours for young adults.)

 

I've been sleeping 2-3 hours max each night and experiencing back pain, but since I bought over the counter sleeping pills I've been able to sleep longer. However, too long. I remember sleeping 10 hours in some days.

 

Something tells me that it might be my change of diet (I completely cut off heavy carbohydrates and eating mostly veggies and chicken sometimes steak) because a few days after I started that's when this problem started. However, I've read a few things online that cutting down carbohydrates is suppose to make you feel fatigued and sleep more than usual.

 

I don't want to be dependent on sleeping pills, but has anyone else experienced this kind of trouble? I already scheduled an appointment for a doctor, but he won't be available till next week. =/

 

Thank you in advanced.

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I always have issues falling asleep!!

 

The most important thing, is to not use a computer or anything stimulating at night. We are all so bad at this!!! Lol. I used to be good about it and turn everything of and read but i like the Internet too much!

 

Yeah, I would try not to get dependent on sleeping pills. You could always try melotonin. Have you? Many people have issues falling asleep do to lack of melotonin in their bodies. This is supposed to help you build it back up. I have friends who swear by it and friends who says it's a load of crap lol. But it's worth a try! It's not a sleeping pill and it's over the counter.

 

The other important things is try also not to get used to any pills that make you drowsy either. I am guilty of using the occasional night sleeping pill or gravel. This is a really bad habit, that I never do anymore. But, I used to a lot.

 

A good diet also helps!!! Eating lots of veggies and being healthy. Also, being active!! The days I do yoga I sleep way bett at night! So try and get some excursive in as well!!! You can also try a bath before bed because that can be super relaxing or aroma therapy? I use some sprays in my room or candles before bed because to me that's so relaxing. It really helps!

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I always have issues falling asleep!!

 

The most important thing, is to not use a computer or anything stimulating at night. We are all so bad at this!!! Lol. I used to be good about it and turn everything of and read but i like the Internet too much!

 

Oh my, I'm so bad at this. :P Hehe, but could reading be stimulating for our eyes? I find myself mostly reading than surfing the Net.

 

Yeah, I would try not to get dependent on sleeping pills. You could always try melotonin. Have you? Many people have issues falling asleep do to lack of melotonin in their bodies. This is supposed to help you build it back up. I have friends who swear by it and friends who says it's a load of crap lol. But it's worth a try! It's not a sleeping pill and it's over the counter.

 

The other important things is try also not to get used to any pills that make you drowsy either. I am guilty of using the occasional night sleeping pill or gravel. This is a really bad habit, that I never do anymore. But, I used to a lot.

 

I haven't heard of Melotonin, to be honest. I'll see if my local pharmacy has it, or perhaps Wal-Mart since it's cheaper, hehe.

 

 

A good diet also helps!!! Eating lots of veggies and being healthy. Also, being active!! The days I do yoga I sleep way bett at night! So try and get some excursive in as well!!! You can also try a bath before bed because that can be super relaxing or aroma therapy? I use some sprays in my room or candles before bed because to me that's so relaxing. It really helps!

 

I've tried aroma therapy before, but I find it keeps me alert than ever. :mellow: Anyway, thank you, Arie! I'll try Melotonin, I'll see if anything changes this week till the next. Thank you again. =D

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Oh my, I'm so bad at this. :P Hehe, but could reading be stimulating for our eyes? I find myself mostly reading than surfing the Net.

 

 

 

I haven't heard of Melotonin, to be honest. I'll see if my local pharmacy has it, or perhaps Wal-Mart since it's cheaper, hehe.

 

 

 

 

I've tried aroma therapy before, but I find it keeps me alert than ever. :mellow: Anyway, thank you, Arie! I'll try Melotonin, I'll see if anything changes this week till the next. Thank you again. =D

 

Hahaha I am so bad at that too!!! I heard that reading is better for you then like being on the Internet ect. But idk if that's true lol.

Yeah, ask your pharmasist about it! I have never tried it so I don't exactly know what it's all about. I have just heard of it. Worth a shot! I am pretty sure they have it everywhere so yeah definitely get it where it's the cheapest!!

Really??? Hahaha so funny. My aroma therapy really helps me relax! Wow you have tried everything! Let me know how it goes!!! Good luck!!! I hope my information helps!

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omg i've been having issues of falling asleep for like half of my life.

i even went to the doctor for it and it didnt really help...she basically told me eveything i already knew like don't watch t.v/play with electronics before you go to bed. avoid bright lights before bedtime and ect.

 

but she did recomment Melatonin which someone stated before and it works good for me and isnt bad like tynol pm was.

and they sell it at wal-mart

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Here's a tip for some of you guys who have trouble going to sleep.

 

There is this spray at Bath & Body Works called "Pillow Mist Sleep Aromatherapy." You spray 2-3 sprays of it onto your pillow, let it dry and then go to sleep. I have it and it works for me when I can't fall asleep. The aroma from the mist is supposed to relax you to a point to where you fall asleep.

 

Have any of you guys tried it? Here's a link to it.

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I've had trouble sleeping for years (although my lifestyle isn't exactly conducive to a good pattern). The most important thing is to try and keep a regular pattern of when you go to bed (even if not sleep) and if at all possible, leave your window slightly open (on the latch or with a vent open, just to keep some fresh air in the room during the night)

 

something else that is important is to make sure you eat relatively early in the evening, and don't snack before bed (or ideally for several hours before sleep). It is also worth trying to exercise after your evening meal, and to only drink water for a few hours before bed too, as sugars/caffeine in most other drinks will keep you awake.

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Not complete lack of sleep, I'm not getting the necessary sleep I should (which is 6-7 hours for young adults.)

 

I've been sleeping 2-3 hours max each night and experiencing back pain, but since I bought over the counter sleeping pills I've been able to sleep longer. However, too long. I remember sleeping 10 hours in some days.

 

Something tells me that it might be my change of diet (I completely cut off heavy carbohydrates and eating mostly veggies and chicken sometimes steak) because a few days after I started that's when this problem started. However, I've read a few things online that cutting down carbohydrates is suppose to make you feel fatigued and sleep more than usual.

 

I don't want to be dependent on sleeping pills, but has anyone else experienced this kind of trouble? I already scheduled an appointment for a doctor, but he won't be available till next week. =/

 

Thank you in advanced.

 

Lack of sleep is a killer. I do think there is a difference between getting absolutely no sleep and getting just a few hours of sleep per night. Obviously, there is...so you might think I'm stating the complete plain and blunt! But look, there are several defined terms as to temporary "illnesses": sleep apnea (lack of oxygen being absorbed by the body), insomnia (which it seems to be many people suffer from around here), even all the way to periods of emotions such as depression, etc.

 

My question to you is: Do you have a schedule that will allow you to sleep the recommended 6-7 hours for young adults? If you don't, then you are not going to get the "full" sleep. I have been told by a retired Navy officer that all of the sleep you need is really within fifteen minutes of the whole time span in which you sleep. I would venture to guess it has to do with entering a deep consciousness where one doesn't dream or think.

 

I'm a heavy sleeper myself and never had long-term issues with sleeping (knock on wood). As far as addressing your concerns, however, back pain is a common result of lack of sleep because you are on your feet most of the day, I assume. Although your vertebrae are cushioned with "pockets" of fluid (discs), being on your feet and say, exercising or whichever activity you do most often, will eventually get to your back. Wherever you experience pain in your back, it is (generally) in relation to the compression of this fluid and thereby compression of the nerves which your vertebrae protect.

 

To help ease the back pain: You can sleep on your side in the fetal position as it stretches your back gently, perform any number of stetches good for the area you struggle with, opt to use pain-relieving patches such as Icy Hot, Bengay, etc.; or do what I do most: take a gallon plastic freezer baggie and fill it with ice cubes, wrap cloth over it and treat your back 15-20 mins as needed per hour. You can also invest in a heat pack and do the same as you would with the ice pack. I swear by this.

 

Now, as far as your change in diet regarding cutting down carbohydrate intake while increasing vegetable and meat intake: Anytime you adjust your diet, your body needs to re-condition itself. However, generally speaking...complex carbohydrates (pasta, potatoes, wheat products, rice, etc.) actually fatigue you more because a) the fibre fills you, b)the sugars in these carbs are released on a slower level than simple carbs (i.e.: chips, candy, etc.), c) carbohydrate (sometimes coupled with protein as well) intake affects the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain (especially "melotonin", which Arie has mentioned). Carbs generally re-calibrate the balance in your brain, initiating that calm and satisfied/full feeling.

 

I do not recommend, or am I a proponent, of over-the-counter sleeping pills. Anything requiring taking pills should be consulted with a doctor (and maybe another one with a second opinion). There are more natural options available than sleeping pills fabricated in a laboratory and subsequently sold on the mass market.

 

Imbalanced hours of sleep (2-3 hours one night, 10 hours the next) is your body's effort to compensate for your fatigue. The irony is that this compensation is really over compensation, which makes your body feel more tired and want more sleep.

 

**If anyone would like links or resources for things I have explained, just drop a comment on my profile or comment in this thread.**

 

I always have issues falling asleep!!

 

The most important thing, is to not use a computer or anything stimulating at night. We are all so bad at this!!! Lol. I used to be good about it and turn everything of and read but i like the Internet too much!

 

Yeah, I would try not to get dependent on sleeping pills. You could always try melotonin. Have you? Many people have issues falling asleep do to lack of melotonin in their bodies. This is supposed to help you build it back up. I have friends who swear by it and friends who says it's a load of crap lol. But it's worth a try! It's not a sleeping pill and it's over the counter.

 

The other important things is try also not to get used to any pills that make you drowsy either. I am guilty of using the occasional night sleeping pill or gravel. This is a really bad habit, that I never do anymore. But, I used to a lot.

 

A good diet also helps!!! Eating lots of veggies and being healthy. Also, being active!! The days I do yoga I sleep way bett at night! So try and get some excursive in as well!!! You can also try a bath before bed because that can be super relaxing or aroma therapy? I use some sprays in my room or candles before bed because to me that's so relaxing. It really helps!

 

I was actually reading an article not too long back that talked about stimulation for the eyes and how in today's culture, bright blue LED lights, car lights, computer screens...anything that heightens sensory perception will prevent you from sleeping or catching shut-eye on two levels: distraction for the eyes, and thoughts that these sights provoke.

 

Melotonin is a good idea, although I have never used it. Again, if someone buys any over-the-counter medicine, pills, or vitamin supplements, please consult your physician, as you never know how much is too much or what is good for you (everybody's body is different),

 

A good and *balanced diet* helps. I have tried (though unrelated) losing weight (which affects other areas in life) trying to do all kinds of methods. The only method which works for me is balance (of primary and secondary food groups), and cooking directly from scratch helps, too).

 

I just attended a meditation class today which featured philosophy, meditation (of course), and low-level yoga. So, I agree with Arie...it definitely will help you breathe better and increase your lung capacity (causing better sleep as a result). Have you tried music (as in calm, ambient sounds)?

 

Definitely warm-hot showers for your back pain, Tara. Should take down inflammation and make you feel more comfortable.

;)

 

Oh my, I'm so bad at this. :P Hehe, but could reading be stimulating for our eyes? I find myself mostly reading than surfing the Net.

 

Reading IS stimulating for the eyes, but it depends on what you read. Read something that you enjoy which doesn't bring you stress or worry about present-day life.

 

Reading over the Internet, however, (though everyone is different) does kind of provide over-stimulation for the eyes, bringing about more activity in the brain. I would venture to guess that it has to do with the brightness of most screens now-a-days (each store selling x,y,z flatscreen whatever) are usually espousing the positive effects of watching shows, surfing the 'Net, in high-defintion. The stimulation can go both ways.

 

 

Here's a tip for some of you guys who have trouble going to sleep.

 

There is this spray at Bath & Body Works called "Pillow Mist Sleep Aromatherapy." You spray 2-3 sprays of it onto your pillow, let it dry and then go to sleep. I have it and it works for me when I can't fall asleep. The aroma from the mist is supposed to relax you to a point to where you fall asleep.

 

Have any of you guys tried it? Here's a link to it.

 

I definitely want to check this out.

 

I also absolutely LOVE Bath and Body Works' sets of lotion, shower gel, and shampoo (?) in their Aromatherapy section. To be specific, the one that calms and attracts me the most is the Eucalyptis Mint scent. Cannot get enough of it!!!

 

The memo on the bottom of the bottom has something written about Eucalyptis being used by Abroigines to ward off evil thoughts. Cool, huh? Smells good too :P .

 

I've had trouble sleeping for years (although my lifestyle isn't exactly conducive to a good pattern). The most important thing is to try and keep a regular pattern of when you go to bed (even if not sleep) and if at all possible, leave your window slightly open (on the latch or with a vent open, just to keep some fresh air in the room during the night)

 

something else that is important is to make sure you eat relatively early in the evening, and don't snack before bed (or ideally for several hours before sleep). It is also worth trying to exercise after your evening meal, and to only drink water for a few hours before bed too, as sugars/caffeine in most other drinks will keep you awake.

 

Regular sleep pattern IS important. Most resources actually recommend that if you're trying to increase the amount of time you sleep per night, to increase it by intervals (say, thirty minutes each night) until you get to your desired amount.

 

Circulation of air is great too, such as leaving a window open a crack, small fan going, or even a dehumidifier in the room. Also, you can try plants (plants emmit oxygen and take in cardioxide [what we emmit)!

 

I have never tried modifying my diet by times I eat. I have grown up in a culture where breakfast, lunch, and dinner is usually almost always served late. But it's well-worth a try to follow Azlan's advice as well. Caffeine (coffee, energy drinks, highly caffeinated tea) should definitely be a no-no late at night (unless you're pushing a paper for a deadline :P ). Try decaf coffee, or even 1/2 caf, and a lighter flavored tea [oolong, green, chamomile...or a similar light blend].

 

I hope this helps!!!!!!!!! Sorry for the long post; life has gotten pretty hectic, so I wanted to address everyone's suggestions and take them into account for my advice too.

 

Great suggestions everyone, btw!!! Sleep well guys (and gals!) !!! B)

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Circulation of air is great too, such as leaving a window open a crack, small fan going, or even a dehumidifier in the room. Also, you can try plants (plants emmit oxygen and take in cardioxide [what we emmit)!

 

 

There was some excellent advice in that post, but I just thought I should flag up that plants are actually not particually healthy in a room that you sleep in, as at night, they revert to normal respiration (or something similar) and produce CO2 (although less than they take in during the day) so they are not ideal unless you have another means of circulating the air (window, fan etc..)

 

this is my source to back that up... http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/bot00/bot00191.htm

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