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Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:36 PM

Whenever I watch the movies I cringe at all the Harry/Ron moments that were left out and replaced by Harry/Hermione moments. I guess that comment is more appropriate for the Harry/Ron shipping thread though. >.<

I think in a weird sort of way, the fact that so many people can ship H/Hr as opposed to the canon relationships speaks to the way Rowling wroter her characters. I say that in a very positive sense. She really did a wonderful job of developing the trios personalities so well that it allowed fans to ship the relationships/character traits they might value most when they looked at the dynamic between Harry and Ginny and Harry and Hermione and Ron and Hermione. Sometimes I feel that the ships we choose may well indicate as much about the reader's values as it does the character's values. If that makes any sense. Finding it hard to find the words to express what I'd like to in the way I wish to in this post. :doh:
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Posted 27 February 2012 - 12:25 AM

I understand what you mean. It is indeed testament to JKR's writing and the depth of her characters. As passionate as we are about the 'canon' relationships, it is as she said - it could have gone either way. Whilst I don't believe Harry and Hermione would have had as good a romantic dynamic as either R/Hr or H/G, had those characters been written to have found eachother's better qualities attractive, then they could have been believable romantically. I think a lot of it is to do with individual preference, as you said. A lot of H/Hr shippers seem to dislike the amount of bickering in R/Hr's relationship, preferring H/Hr's calmer dynamic. R/Hr fans, by contrast, can see their fiery moments as a positive. A lot of people seem to overlook or like H/G less because their subtlety is probably overshadowed by more obvious, on-the-page relationships, whereas I am drawn to them largely because of that factor. It's quite staggering when you think of the amount of possible different ways different aspects such as character and relationships can be perceived by individual readers. You only have to look at the movies, and compare the movie version of a character to the one in your mind's eye to note the difference - each movie character must essentially be a merge of the collective interpretations of the actor, directors and casting directors. No matter how good an actor is, or how thoroughly they've researched the character, their interpretation will never be exactly the same as every reader's imagination. Some are closer than others, but it's impossible to meet everyone's expectations.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this now so I'll stop before I start an essay haha.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 01:40 PM

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:27 AM

I understand what you mean. It is indeed testament to JKR's writing and the depth of her characters. As passionate as we are about the 'canon' relationships, it is as she said - it could have gone either way. Whilst I don't believe Harry and Hermione would have had as good a romantic dynamic as either R/Hr or H/G, had those characters been written to have found eachother's better qualities attractive, then they could have been believable romantically. I think a lot of it is to do with individual preference, as you said. A lot of H/Hr shippers seem to dislike the amount of bickering in R/Hr's relationship, preferring H/Hr's calmer dynamic. R/Hr fans, by contrast, can see their fiery moments as a positive. A lot of people seem to overlook or like H/G less because their subtlety is probably overshadowed by more obvious, on-the-page relationships, whereas I am drawn to them largely because of that factor. It's quite staggering when you think of the amount of possible different ways different aspects such as character and relationships can be perceived by individual readers. You only have to look at the movies, and compare the movie version of a character to the one in your mind's eye to note the difference - each movie character must essentially be a merge of the collective interpretations of the actor, directors and casting directors. No matter how good an actor is, or how thoroughly they've researched the character, their interpretation will never be exactly the same as every reader's imagination. Some are closer than others, but it's impossible to meet everyone's expectations.

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this now so I'll stop before I start an essay haha.



First off.. thanks for adding a new Harry/Ginny graphic Joanne! :ohyeah: I love the title to your graphic too. Please keep the graphics coming... I really believe they add wonderfully to the shipper threads.

Now Katharine.. sorry for taking so long to respond to this (but it was still faster than your fanfic update ;)) and as usually ITA! The films will always vary from the way we read the books, esp. as each and every one of us has a different vision of the book characters (even though I'm beginning to believe you and vida have used Occlemency on me over the years now). I may have mentioned this before, but I'm kind of torn about movies vs. books and the order in which I experience them. I would qualify myself as a fairly avid reader over the years (many would consider me an avid reader, which makes me below average in my own family) and as such, it's difficult for me to hold off reading a good book when one of my siblings tell me about it. That said, I regrettably resisted reading the Harry Potter books for a loooonnngg time even though my sister and twin brother had championed them to me. Truth be told, I had a narrow and prejudiced view of books that I deemed to be aimed at a teen audience (Since the HP series I've read a number of quality stories aimed at a teen audience). Therefore, I actually saw the first 4 movies before I had read any of the books as it was easier for me to invest my time in a 2 hour movie. In having approached the series in that manner, I have always had a greater affection for the first 4 movies in the series. When I read the books AFTER having seen those movies, while I noticed a number of the differences, on the whole I felt like I was getting EXTRA information. I loved the books, but it didn't really detract any from the movies for me. I can still watch the first four movies and I tend to enjoy them more than any of the subsequent movies save for the final one perhaps. Once I read the series, movies 5,6, and part one of 7 were quite disapointing to me. I will never know the answer to this, but I sometimes wonder if I'd have enjoyed the second half of the series from a filmography perspective, better, had I waited until all the movies were released before I read the series. :mellow:
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

Indeed Joanne thank you for the lovely graphic! I love that image. :)


Jon, I agree (what a surprise!). I, for example, watched the LOTR movies before I read the books. However as much as I appreciated the differences between book and movie, reading the 'extra information' in the canon has only enhanced, not detracted from, my love from the movies. As such, I can understand why movie-first HP viewers can have a greater affinity to the movie portrayal of characters/relationships/etc regardless of their appreciation of the canon. I've often wondered too how I may have viewed the HP films had I not read the books first. I'm sure I would have liked the story, but I often wonder whether my appreciation of the HP films is limited because of my opinion of them as adaptations. There are aspects of the movies that I highly commend, and as a whole I adore them... but largely I adore them BECAUSE they are HP. They are part of that world, and have been part of my life. Regardless of whether or not I believe them to live up to their title. I am glad I read the books first, but in some ways I would be interested to see how my view of the movies and the series as a whole would have altered had I watched the films first. I wonder how that may have affected my perceptions of the characters and their relationships and the overall quality of the story. I'd like to think I would still have found and appreciated the canon as much as I do now, but I guess we'll never know.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:38 PM

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:51 AM

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 02:10 AM

Indeed Joanne thank you for the lovely graphic! I love that image. :)


Jon, I agree (what a surprise!). I, for example, watched the LOTR movies before I read the books. However as much as I appreciated the differences between book and movie, reading the 'extra information' in the canon has only enhanced, not detracted from, my love from the movies. As such, I can understand why movie-first HP viewers can have a greater affinity to the movie portrayal of characters/relationships/etc regardless of their appreciation of the canon. I've often wondered too how I may have viewed the HP films had I not read the books first. I'm sure I would have liked the story, but I often wonder whether my appreciation of the HP films is limited because of my opinion of them as adaptations. There are aspects of the movies that I highly commend, and as a whole I adore them... but largely I adore them BECAUSE they are HP. They are part of that world, and have been part of my life. Regardless of whether or not I believe them to live up to their title. I am glad I read the books first, but in some ways I would be interested to see how my view of the movies and the series as a whole would have altered had I watched the films first. I wonder how that may have affected my perceptions of the characters and their relationships and the overall quality of the story. I'd like to think I would still have found and appreciated the canon as much as I do now, but I guess we'll never know.


If you have children some day Katharine (which is not meant to assume that you would chose to) or if you have young children now, would you want for them to see the movies or read the books first? I've often thought that if I become a parent someday I would like to share my love for Harry Potter with my children and I think that the movies could be a good avenue for getting young children interested enough in the series to give the books a chance. Of course hopefully if I have a wife and children someday, as parents, my wife and I will be good enough to read to our child/children and foster a real interest in reading in them.

Sorry if that's too personal a question and I don't mean to put you on the spot. Just curious how you might think the Potter series will take hold with future generations. More through the movies or through the books? Is there a "better" way to introduce them to the series?
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Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:01 PM

If I had children, I would absolutely encourage them to read the Harry Potter series. If they could get as much from it as I have, that would be something truly special. I think I would want them to read the books first, as I too would hope to encourage reading from a young age. I think I would also like them to read first to prove that books can be enjoyed as much as movies and other forms of entertainment, that not everything has to be reliant on media. Obviously reading is hugely beneficial educationally and in helping children exercise their imaginations. However, I would not be adverse to them seeing the films first. Especially if children are disinterested in reading, the movies would be a great way to get them involved.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:10 PM

IF, and this is entirely hypothetical obviously, but if Jo had decided to kill off Ron Weasley in The Deathly Hallows, would Harry still have ended up with Ginny?

I ask this coming out of a few points. The first being that there would be a huge outcry and expectation from the Harry/Hermione crowd that Harry and Hermione end up together if Ron had died. The second being out of how Ginny might react to Harry, if that would have been altered or effected any, having lost Ron. Would Ginny somehow have held Harry responsible or resent the boy who lived after her brother who was so closely involved with the cause lost his life?

I have my answeres, but I will wait for other reactions before I devulge what I think.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

I think no matter what, Harry and Ginny would have ended up together-btw YOU ARE IN TIMEOUT FOREVER...HOW DARE YOU THINK THINK THINK of saying the words KILLED OFF RON WEASLEY IN THE SAME SENTENCE???? ;) That would be like saying the same about our Hermione!!!!! NO NO NO LOL...from the moment Harry and Hermione met (I am talking book and movies here) Hermione was meant to be Harry's sister-Hermione treated Harry like her little brother and sometimes even motherly. As for Ginny-she had a crush on Harry from the start. I think Ginny would have realized that Ron made the decision to go with Harry and IF (THANK YOU JKR FOR NOT DOING THIS TO OUR R/HR) Ron would have been killed off, she would have not blamed Harry. I think Ginny chose her Chosen One early in life, much to the worry of her parents-they loved Harry like their son but I think the dangers of being with Harry concerned them about their lil girl. Anywho just my 2 cents :)
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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:24 PM

That's a really interesting question Jon! (I've missed these forums).

If such an unthinkable thing had happened, it would certainly have had a massive impact on all the main characters' lives.

Concerning Harry and Hermione... it is totally possible that through love and grief for Ron they could have been brought closer together... but all things considered, I don't think they would have got together. Here are my reasons:
- Harry and Hermione's relationship when Ron left in DH. Fair enough, the situation is very different. Harry's feelings towards Ron would be grief, rather than anger or betrayal. But H/Hr's behaviour without Ron in DH is quite telling, I think - they felt his loss profoundly. As great friends as Harry and Hermione are, without Ron there a piece of the trio was missing. Sometimes they passed days without even talking to eachother. Furthermore, Harry doesn't comfort Hermione. In this instance, he feels partially responsible for her sadness. The same would be true if Ron had died - Harry would feel overwhelmingly guilty. Also, throughout the series, Harry has avoided conversations with Hermione about feelings. In such an event, Hermione would be scrutinising Harry more than ever, and he would push her away like he always does. He can be irritated by Hermione's worry, and as much as he cares, he doesn't always like to approach her about things either. He avoids going to her with his own problems, and he doesn't always know how to be of comfort to her (like in DH).
- Guilt. Even if Harry and Hermione did start to feel romantically inclined to one another, out of respect for Ron's memory they would not act on it for quite some time. Hermione, by DH, is completely in love with Ron. That would take her significant time to get over. Harry would also have to deal with the thought that he was betraying Ron by getting with the girl he knew (even if Ron had never acknowledged it to him) that Ron had loved. Especially if Ron had died after The Silver Doe - that would intensify the guilt no end.
- Just because Ron dies doesn't make Harry and Hermione any more suited. Sure, circumstances change. They are brilliant friends who love eachother dearly and perhaps they could grow close enough to start a romantic relationship. However, Harry and Hermione have never shown any sign of attraction towards eachother. In my opinion, certain aspects of their personalities are not ideally romantically suited either. Ultimately, Harry and Hermione not together not because Hermione is in love with Ron, but because Hermione is not in love with Harry.


Harry and Ginny's relationship would undoubtedly be affected by Ron's death. On Harry's part, he would blame himself for the death of her brother, for the pain he caused her family. Perhaps even the family resemblance would make it hard for him to be close to her. He would probably try to push her away, to extradite himself from the Weasleys to save them all the pain of being around him and vice versa. But I don't think they'd let him. The entire Weasley family knew what they were getting into, they knew the risk involved. A couple may lash out in grief, but I don't think ultimately any of them would blame Harry. They lose Fred in DH and although we don't know the aftermath of the battle, it seems that any friction that was caused healed eventually.

Ginny, along with the rest of her family would be consumed with grief and I think Harry would find it difficult to comfort her, due to his own grief and feeling of responsibility. I don't think Ginny would blame him at all. I don't think the situation would alter their love for one another, merely the intensity of their relationship. Perhaps Harry would feel guilty being with Ginny knowing Ron's problems with their relationship in the past. It may feel insulting to his memory. Ultimately though, despite undoubtable pressure, I think Harry and Ginny would pull through. They dealt with Fred's death. Ron's death would have much more impact on Harry, and perhaps strain their relationship more, but similar guilt and grief would have been caused by Fred's death. They got through that. They've got through a lot. Ginny is a strong person, and brings comfort to Harry. I believe the two of them would have pulled through in the end.


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Posted 25 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

Kristin and Katharine, you both make great points and ITA!

Harry and Hermione are simply not sympatico in the way that Harry and Ginny are. Not only did Harry have difficulty comforting Hermione when Ron was gone, but throughout the series, in book after book, when Hermione and Ron were at odds and Harry had to try and connect with Ron and Hermione indvidually, his interactions with Ron were often relatively seemless, while an awkward and unsettled feeling existed between him and Hermione most of the time. I think that for Hermione too.. Harry was, as you said Kristin, like a brother, and that is why she treated him as her sounding board. Harry was ofc dealing with a small matter known as Voldemort and was never very good at relating to the personal dramas, the highs and the lows, that Ron and Hermione thrived off of. Harry needed someone who exhibited emotional equlibrium. That was always Ginny. By the time of the Deathly Hallows, there had been way too much character development to ever suggest that Harry could be with Hermione and vice versa IMO.

Now, having said that, I believe if JKR had snuffed out Ron that Ginny's decision to be with Harry and Harry's decision to be with Ginny would not be QUITE as clear. Katharine, you brought up a great point that I had not even considered (ummm OFF TOPIC.. this is exhibit A for why we need you here more often) in that Harry would likely have felt such an extreme guilt over Ron's death that he might push Ginny and the Weasley's away. That point that you made, could indeed be the biggest obstacle to a Harry/Ginny relationship moving forward. I agree with you that Ginny had fully accepted the potential consequences of standing by Harry, as had her family. In having made that decision, she would not leave Harry's side easily.

Another point I considered was that had JKR chosen to do the unmentionable and killed Ron it wouldn't take away the empathetic connection that Harry and Ginny share ALONE, in both having had their minds invaded by Lord Voldemort. Having both shared that unique trama, it created almost like the polar opposite of a HORCRUX, between Harry and Ginny. Rather than their souls fracturing, that experience cemented them as soul mates IMO. When JKR had Ginny remind Harry of that (In Order of the Phoenix I believe it was) I think she was shrewdly having Ginny tell Harry, WE ARE SOULMATES, and don't you forget it (even though I don't suggest that as a concious motive, the concious motive was to tell Harry to stop being such a whiny bitch)! And it struck Harry in such a way that it was the single thing that penetrated the self-pity and anger in him that was pervasive throughout OOTP.

I think this moment is what would have eventually brought Harry around to Ginny, inspite of all the guilt he'd have felt over Ron's death, heaped upon Fred's and that of all the other friends who perished.

and that's what I think. :yesyes:

Oh and OFF TOPIC. Kristin! :o ETERNAL TO?????? :sob:
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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

YES jon I am sorry-I had a BAD week at work so dont mess with me ;)

DW, WOW...all I can say is WOW...everything you said made sense...I can't even comment because literally I can't argue anything to the point or add anything to it. I believe H/G were meant to be from the start but I will be honest only in book version-the movies didnt help that relationship-I think some because Dan and Bonnie just didnt have that chemistry, like R/E have with each other. Which was sad because in the book I really did like H/G together-Jon the point you made about both their minds being invaded brought them as soulmates-WOAH (you are now allowed to come join us again ;))...Hermione and Harry I think (dont kill me here) wouldnt have ever been friends or at least best friends had it not been for Ron. Yes Hermione and Harry were brought up by muggles but with that said what else did they have in common? Another thing is Harry never challenged Hermione the way that Ron does. Hermione/Ron had this I dont know INTENSE PASSION for each other when they would fight-like trying to get each other going because well thats what passionate people do LOL...H/G challenge each other-Ginny is a strong, stubborn Weasley girl (like Molly) who doesnt take Harry's "woe is me" nonsense. She loves Harry for who he is. Hermione in some ways wanted to see Harry change/couldnt take Harry's woe is me attitude. But Ron, she loves without wanting to change who he is. She sees Ron as the man that others couldnt always see. She loves her Weasley King without any question, doubt, I mean unconditionally they love each other. Harry and Hermione always fought but not in the same way though as R/Hr did. When Ron left, like DW said, there was this piece that was missing-Harry couldnt comfort Hermione because he didnt know how to comfort her. He was all awkward like a lil brother would be with his older sister. I mean I think JKR meant for Hermione and Ginny to end up with the other's brother :) Now IF, IF IF IF (it pains me to even write this) Ron would have died, I think Hermione would have gone back to the muggle world-I think she wouldnt be able to stay in a world that killed the love of her life. My other theory is that Hermione would have fallen in love (MANY years later like 15 years! LOL) with a muggle. A third theory, Hermione would have become an auror in memory of her love and would take on Ron's personality of being a bit reckless and impulsive at times. All in all I just dont see Hermione moving on-she may have been the logical one but usually the ones with the brains have a fragile heart. Anyway again my 2 cents...I like this discussion because THANK GOD RON LIVES!!! :) MARRIED TO HIS HERMIONE!!! :) WITH KIDS!!! :)
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:25 PM

Jon, your point about Harry and Hermione being at odds throughout the series was what I'd been meaning to say, but you expressed it so much better. Obviously Hermione is often 'at odds' with Ron too, but I think the telling thing is not the amount of fights she has with both boys, but they way in which those fights affect the characters/relationships involved. Hermione countering Harry annoys him and he avoids her. Hermione countering Ron provokes Ron and he in turn counters her. That is, IMO, a much more healthy way to deal with disagreements and Ron and Hermione are able and unafraid to rise to eachothers challenges in this. Like Kristen said, they have a very passionate relationship.

Kristen, I also find interesting your suggestion that Hermione may want to change some aspects of Harry's attitude or personality that annoy her. I'd never thought about that before, but I think you could be right. Hermione and Ron disagree over certain issues, but they never seem annoyed by one of the other's personality traits, as Harry and Hermione do.

Jon, I LOVE the imagery of H/G's diary connection being a kind of anti-horcrux. Oh, how Tom Riddle would love to know the part he played in Harry finding the love of his life!
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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:43 PM

Let's liven this thread up!

 

 

I've been re-watching the series with my BF recently in preparation for our trip to the WB STUDIOS TOUR (yeah, there are no words to express my excitement!), finishing with DH Part 2 today.

 

My BF commented to me during the last film that the last kiss between Harry and Ginny (on the stairs during the battle) was 'a bit of a **** kiss really', which made me sad because I've always thought of that as my favourite H/G kiss in the films lol.

 

So, my question to you (which has probably been asked before, but hey, this thread needs some conversation!) is: which is your favourite H/G kiss in the FILM series and why?

If anyone wishes to discuss their book kisses as well, then of course that is always welcome :D

 

 

For me, in the film, my favourite was the aforementioned kiss on the stairs. It wasn't long but it was an extra one which wasn't in the book, so was a bonus for me, and IMO was more of the passionate H/G from the books which I believe had been missing from their previous movie kisses. I liked Ginny's 'I know' to Harry afterwards: for me, symbolic of their relationship at that stage - fighting in their separate ways, her supporting but letting him accomplish the task he had to do, but still letting each other know they cared.

 

In the book, my favourite was the kiss in Ginny's room at the beginning of DH - for me a beautiful, passionate pre-war embrace. I was a little sad they couldn't include it in the film, but the one in its place, with Harry zipping up Ginny's dress in the Burrow's kitchen, was a nice scene, with an amusing interruption from George ;), and more fitting for H/G's more 'mellow' relationship in the movies.

 

I love these two.

 

What does anyone else think?


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 12:59 AM

Miss Katharine,

 

I totally agree with your BF on this one...the kiss on the stairs, the final of the three kisses between Harry and Ginny in the films was a bit of a **** kiss.  It almost seems like it was thrown in just to appeal to fandom.  It was rushed and in an entirely poor/inappropriate moment.  I understand that they might not see one another again, but part of me has always had a bit of a problem with the kisses (yes the Ron and Hermione kiss too) occuring during the final battle (and I mean that in the books too).  This is just me being way over critical, because I love all the relationships in the HP series.  JKR did it right with Ron and Hermione and Harry and Ginny, but even if I can soften on my opinions over time, I stand by beliefs concerning the kisses.

 

To me the best kiss by H/G in the movies by a long shot was the first Harry and Ginny kiss.  The camera angle on the second kiss was disastrous.  Even worse than it was with the Ron and Hermione kiss (they should have gone with the edited kisses and angles).  To me Warner Brother's did a disservice to HP fans by caving to any concerns they may have had over the idea of the series being a "kid's series".  In reality, the books and the series was for children who were growing up and for grown ups.  Those were not grown up camera angles for the kisses.  The WB wussed out if I can say it that way. >.<

 

The first Harry Ginny kiss, while not how I had imagined it in the books, was still sweet and innocent in the movies.  It spoke love more than passion which was a sentiment beautifully portrayed.  Harry and Ginny's relationship was ALWAYS portrayed in the books as more love than sexual passion.  I imagined the kisses Ginny shared with Dean more passionately than those she shared with Harry.  I have no problem with two people not drooling in eachother's mouths in the movies  (please pardon the expressoin).  I simply mean to convey, that that is not what I was looking for neccessarily in the H/G kisses.  I just thought that they should be shown and not shielded.  The first kiss was done that justice at least,  The third kiss was also, and it's much more the timing of it that has and will always bother me.  So the third kiss would finish second if I had to rank them.

 

So I stand by the first movie kiss between Harry and Ginny as being the best and put my vote there.  Sorry about not capitulating to the third movie kiss Katharine. >.<



OMG ... btw Katharine i hope that you and your BF have a wonderful time when you tour the WB studios.  I'm quite jealous to tell you the truth. lol


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 04:25 AM

Ummmm.... what ever happened to "liven(ing) this thread up"?  :P 

 

Funny definition of livening things up you Brits have. Kinda like watching grass grow. :rolleye0012:

 

Ohhh... and how was the WB studio tour btw Katharine? :o <----- yes... I'm still jealous.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 05:11 PM

Well it kinda fell flat :(

 

It was amaaaazing thanks, I was just walking around like :lostit: :wub: :drool:. If you ever get the chance, definitely check it out!


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 05:46 AM

Well it kinda fell flat :(

 

It was amaaaazing thanks, I was just walking around like :lostit: :wub: :drool:. If you ever get the chance, definitely check it out!

 

:(

 

Not sure if I will ever get to Europe in my lifetime, but if I do, it will be on "the list". 

 

One of the things I really admire with JKR's writing and relationships is how the Harry and Ginny relationship is not important to the story in the sense that we don't see it as Harry's inspiration or his driving force behind defeating Voldemort.  It's personal, it's guarded and while it may have been something of a driving force, that aspect of it is private and shared between the two of them.  Much as the most intimate and meaningful moments in love are shared between the two and not the world.   I think it's part of why some fans find it tough to appreciate the Harry and Ginny relationship.  Love does not NEED to be on display to be there.  By not being on public display it is not any less meaningful or deeply felt.

 

Harry is also obviously a Christ figure in JKR's series and much like Christ in the Bible, Harry doesn't arive with pomp and circumstance.  No trumpet sounds.  There's a song by Chris Tomlin sung by Audrey Assad that I love called Winter Snow.  The song describes how Christ arrives like a winter snow, quiet, soft and slow... not like a rushing wind or a forrest fire or a roaring flood.  Harry fits that description.  He's understated and humble.  He does not seek attention or glory.  His love with Ginny is like that too.  As such, it's very fitting with his character and as a Christ figure.  Sometimes I find it absolutely rediculous that there are people who think of the Harry Potter series as anti-religious.  Of course that kind of naive closemindedness comes mostly from people who listen to others and do not read something for themselves. 

 

I know I'm getting on a tangent here, but there is something that is kind of a pet-peeve of mine, and that's when a person judges a book or an author without reading their writing.  I've seen this a lot with the Twilight series.  People feel free to bad mouth the writing because of what they heard from others.  I'm sorry, that doesn't cut it with me.  In my mind those people lose any credibility with me.  Even if they're basing their opinion off of trusted sources.  Make an informed opinion yourself is what I say.  I've read the entire series and I did not like it.  But at least I took the time to read it and make my own informed judgments about it.  The people I agree with most in life have several differences of opinion from me.  When I read a book review of a book I want to read, I try not to let it dissuade me or convince me to read it.  I try to use it as information and perspective whilst I read. 

 

I've seen people do this with the HP series too.  It's mind-numbing to me. 

 

Okay, I'm off my rant now.  *steps down from soap box*


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