Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 "The less you reveral, the more people can wonder...." (Emma Watson) Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 "The less you reveral, the more people can wonder...." (Emma Watson) (February 2009) Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (February 2009) And? Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 She was 18 when she said that. She hadn't even enrolled at Brown yet. You really think a quote that old is an accurate reflection of herself now at 24? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 She was 18 when she said that. She hadn't even enrolled at Brown yet. You really think a quote that old is an accurate reflection of herself now at 24? And? Will you say that she is now on the cheap track, showing boobs, legs and ass? I am shocked.... Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Is that what you think she's doing? Was that the point of you bringing that quote up? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think that this outfit she wore does not correspond with her image. This was the reason..... Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So that 5 year old quote is your representation of her current public image? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Its is definitly a part of it.... Link to post Share on other sites
Elena Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 She can dress the way she likes even if I won't ever 100% like everything, why? coz I'm not the one wearing what she wears. End of the bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Elena, Elena... so you call her image "bullshit"? Link to post Share on other sites
Elena Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 And? Will you say that she is now on the cheap track, showing boobs, legs and ass? I am shocked....If you have it ya should FLAUNT IT and be proud of what mama gave you, there's no shame. It's not like she's a christina hendricks showing too much.I find her BFA outfit both decent and sexy. End of the bullshit. Elena, Elena... so you call her image "bullshit"? I meant bullshit of what you wrote above. She can wear what the heck she wants to wear as long as she's darn happy of it, and comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So this discrepancy you perceive between the picture and her past image, do you think this is a good or bad thing? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Given the fact that she tries so hard to have a perfect, clean image (no nudity, no drugs, no alcohol, no "bad" boyfriends, no scandals), I consider this dress with 40% boobs out wrong in the sence of the image she tries to have. After the one she wore at the Ocars, this is the second time she is not following her image. Well, maybe she wants to be recognised as "more adult" now, but it is clearly not a "hiding" dress.I do not know if it is a good or bad thing - it must be difficult and exhausting to live day by day like a Saint. Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It's just that in the past you've repeatedly lamented about her "clean" image and wished that she would take more adult roles. Given that, I thought you might possibly view this kind of change with some semblance of positivity. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) It's just that in the past you've repeatedly lamented about her "clean" image and wished that she would take more adult roles. Given that, I thought you might possibly view this kind of change with some semblance of positivity. Well, I think I would get hung, drawn and quartered here if I would write that I think it's good that she shows some body now and tries to be a adult, attractive female. For me it is the question which strategy - if there is any - is behind this. I do not think that Luke can order her "boobs out". So it is - at the moment - for me simply the wrong gown. Emma is not Miley. Edited December 4, 2014 by Jonny Carinthia Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Well, I think I would get hung, drawn and quartered here if I would write that I think it's good that she shows some body now and tries to be a adult, attractive female. That's not being positive at all. Backhanded compliments are, by definition, an insult. Do you even know how to given an honest compliment? Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Do you even know how to given an honest compliment? Honest compliments are rare..... compliments out of "politness" are worthless. So, if I give sbd. a compliment the person can be sure that I mean it and not just to be polite or for "making good weather". This, maybe is the difference. I still think she is a outstanding woman and I am still thankful for what she did for me without even knowing it, but I also think that she is bad advised and guided by her "yes"-people. As examples: Pictures, repeatedly taken in front of toilet doors, wrong choice of dresses ecc. are mistakes of her team, not of Emma. Edited December 4, 2014 by Jonny Carinthia Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I still think she is a outstanding woman and I am still thankful for what she did for me without even knowing it, but I also think that she is bad advised and guided by "yes"-people. The first part of this sentence is the perfect example of a genuine compliment. You aren't saying it just to be polite, you truly believe it. But no, you can't stop there. You just have to balance it out with a negative, completely neutralizing any positive feeling from the comment. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Finally, Roberto: my compliment belongs to Emma, my critic (in this case) to her highly paid team. She is mistreated and they are not able to fix the easiest tasks, like saying: Please no pics in front of the cloak-room-door, can we have another background. And now, back to Emma-random-pics. Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It doesn't matter who the subjects are. You can't end a compliment with a negative criticism and still call it a compliment. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Carinthia Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It doesn't matter who the subjects are. You can't end a compliment with a negative criticism and still call it a compliment. Well, I see it in a different way. It is a sentence with two contents, one has noting to do with the other. The next time I will split the sentences. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites
Roberto Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Separating the two clauses with a period does not stop the comment as a whole from being a backhanded compliment. Language simply doesn't work like that, regardless of your opinion on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites
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