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#21 Lady Deadpool

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 01:51 AM

^Will do Karen. :D Soz we spammed the thread Joanne!

I also love the psalms!! I hebrew they are called tehillim, which I also just thing is a beautiful sounding name. I have no clue if they are different or not, but I can only assume they are. English translations of the psalms suck beyond words. So if you do ever look them up and don't understand something let me know. I studied them extensively because I love them so much!
I am not sure how I feel about our old Testement being different. I mean it bothers me because christain think our whole Torah is just the five books of Moses, but there is so much more. So I can totally understand how a christain can be bothered by our Torah or think its bad ect. Because we have so much more then just the five books of Moses. So there is love and equality ect. It's kind of misleading in a way.
I guess it doesn't really matter so much your reason for not excepting it. What matters more is that you feel something. Like, your not just saying oh I don't except that. You feeling something strange about the old Testement. Which to me is more understandable, sort of the feeling from G-D that you just can't put into words. I can understand that much easier then a list of reasons why. I think it for sure has to do with your culture and how you were brought up. That's the beauty of culture. I love these conversations too. I have always loved talking about religion. Especially with people who are religious. Because them there is mutual respect. With that respect no one puts the other down. We just have lovely conversations. I just wish I could sit down with you. You with your bible, me with mine and like compare and contrast hahaha.

Omg yes please!! That would be beyond awesome! So much to gain and learn!

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#22 Joanne P.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

Hi !

I read everything but it takes me a while because English is not my mother tongue... Thanks a lot to all of you for your answers and debates, it's all very interesting :)
I just wanted to tell you that I feel like I'm getting closer to Him these days, I hope it's more than a feeling, but my days are much easier, I feel more dynamic, more interested in whta I do...

I'd like to ask you : do you have some verses that you think could help me ? I am looking for readings that will make me more confident and grateful. I'm currently reading some Psalms, this is one of my favourite books.

Have a good evening/good night :)

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:44 AM

For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11

I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me! Philippians 4:13

So they took away the stone. And Jesus lifted up his eyes and said, "Father, I thank you that you have heard me. I know that you always hear me, but I said this on account of the people standing around, that they may believe who sent me" - John 11:42

Jesus said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” John 4:13 - 14
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

Thanks ! The first one talks to me most. It's strange to read in English !
Today I had a talk with a mate about God, it was about giving one's corpse to science (I'm studying medicine and in english we speak of dissection these weeks), and what religions say aboutt that. It was really nice and I told her I was a believer and all, she seemed interested :)
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Posted 18 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

Knowing that faith is difficult to be found:

Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed,
you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible
for you. Matthew 17:20-21

So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be
opened to you. For everyone that asks receives, he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks, the
door will be opened. Luke 6:20-23

No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let
you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way
out so that you can stand up under it. 1 Corinthians 10:13

Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned.
Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you. Luke 6:37-38


God is all about love :)

My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this,
that he lay down his life for his friends. John 15:12-13

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Love never fails.
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13:1-13

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Posted 23 January 2012 - 11:57 AM

My father brought me up on theology, he is a minister and always taught me to understand the context in which christians have to read and appreciate the bible. There are many problems such as reading the old testament in the context of the new and also understanding both the hebrew culture and language in which the old testament was written (same with greek for the new testament). It's amazing how much confusion can be dispelled by understanding these simple aspects of context. If you are confused with the bible in some way don't confuse it with doubting God's existence, doubting yourself and your strength of faith is actually kind of good. It shows humility, God doesn't expect us to be perfect or strong he is strong for us. Anyway I'm going on a bit so I'll sum up how I feel about dealing with confusion with a little scripture.

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight."
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Posted 24 January 2012 - 01:05 AM

My father brought me up on theology, he is a minister and always taught me to understand the context in which christians have to read and appreciate the bible. There are many problems such as reading the old testament in the context of the new and also understanding both the hebrew culture and language in which the old testament was written (same with greek for the new testament). It's amazing how much confusion can be dispelled by understanding these simple aspects of context. If you are confused with the bible in some way don't confuse it with doubting God's existence, doubting yourself and your strength of faith is actually kind of good. It shows humility, God doesn't expect us to be perfect or strong he is strong for us. Anyway I'm going on a bit so I'll sum up how I feel about dealing with confusion with a little scripture.

"Trust in the LORD with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight."
-Proverbs 3:5-6


This is so great cereus, thank you!! I love this one because it just shows to have absolute faith in God and if we just stop worrying, He'll make everything okay.

I was having this issue yesterday, about how much we should take the Bible in context and this is what I came up with (with some opinions from others):

-the Bible has been translated so many times sometimes things get lost in translation
-humans wrote the Bible even though it was divinely inspired
-a lot of Christians micro-analyze the Bible where it wasn't meant to be done.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:24 PM

All truth is already within. Every true principle, everything that is possibly true, YOU ALREADY KNOW. Didn't Jesus say our bodies are temples of God? Go within. Look towards yourSELF, and you will see God, for we are made in Her image.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 11:58 AM

There are some huge posts in here! I'll try keep mine short!

But then, I had a hard time because my education is far from some biblic principles, for instance I strongly believe that women and men are equal and some verses don't express that at all. Plus I have some gay friends, I see them happy, and I wonder why I should disapprove this while they find a way to live their lives in a way that please them. Actually, I have beliefs but can't really generalize them. I feel I shouldn't judge others on their choices (of course I am against some behaviors, but only when they bully some people).


What exactly do you study may I ask?
The bible says that men and women are different. But not really in a negative way for either side. Men and women were made different and will be different.
For example, women will always be more hospitable then men. Men will always be more inclined to be the providers and protectors of women.
Either sex can do each thing no doubt, but we were made that way. We should be treated as equals on a whole.

As for your gay friends, don't look down on them for they are still human beings. We all live in sin in our own ways. Sure what they do is something Christianity disproves of but they still deserve your love and respect. And they will be happy, all worldly things will make us happy now, but what makes us happy and saved in the afterlife is different again!

The second thing is that my family is not religious at all, and I can't share my beliefs with anybody. I have a boyfriend too, and he has a kind of faith but not really believe in God, more in a supernatural power.


This is something I find hard to address. I've grown up in a Christian family so I don't know this pain.
But in the big picture it is more than worth it! Walk tall in your faith and your family will see how happy it makes you. That feeling you felt at church? Your family may become interested and want to know that feeling themselves!
Discuss it with your boyfriend too! If he has half an interest then all the better

So here's my issue : I don't know if I am a believer anymore, if I can trust everything in the Bible, if I am allowed to interpret some verses, being aware of the fact that I may interpret them in order to make things easier for me. I add that I don't go to church anymore, because I don't know which religion is the closest to my beliefs, and I don't know anybody in my town who could help me with that.


What do you believe that feeling in church was? What else could it be?
The bible is a very interesting book, somethings need to be interpreted and others don't. Which ones do is hard to know. I've been a Christian my whole life and I hardly know it! Go to different churches or bible studies to find out.
You don't have to go to church to be a Christian, but you need to keep in touch with God. Church helps to do that.
Shop around at different churches and you will find one that you like!
That feeling you first felt is your motivation!

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