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#21 susang

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:10 AM

nice story line,hope this movie release soon.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:16 AM

Yeah, the story isn't the newest most groundbreaking story, but, really, what is, these days? There are a lot of similar stories because we as humans tend to value these themes of life and death and how we spend our time. Just because something has been explored once, doesn't mean it can't be explored again. Different people bring different things to a story. Stories can enter your life at different times and take on new meanings. There are countless examples of similar premises that end up being very different. Compare a 4 sentence summary of, say, The Hunger Games to Battle Royale and I bet they sound like the same thing, but it's the nuances that really bring things to life and morph them into something completely different. I feel sad for anyone who thinks they've seen and heard it all; that there's nothing new to think about and explore simply because one story might have similarities to some other stories.

 

I see your point; on the other hand I say, "A told story is a told story....". Imagine somebody would redo Harry Potter, because he wants to value these themes of "life and death" or "good or bad" again.... Outcry! So it is here. I do not know the best movie with this "old turns young" plot, but I am sure, there is one and so the story is already told.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:23 AM

So you think if someone does make a film, and that film is somehow voted on as "the best film of this general plot ever" that nobody should ever even try to tell the story again, maybe even in a better way? 



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:27 AM

So you think if someone does make a film, and that film is somehow voted on as "the best film of this general plot ever" that nobody should ever even try to tell the story again, maybe even in a better way? 

 

I cannot answer this question because I do not know the best movie about this plot. It's like: "Billy Wilder did this stuff - and Chbosky can do it BETTER ????"

In fact, I do not care about the movie itself, my concern is that Emma is accepting each and everything now. YVMH is the only real reasonable project which can push her forward a lot; all the other fairytale-stuff is as I said - golden shit for the producers.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:50 AM

It's just that all these filmmakers you evidently admire weren't born amazing filmmakers. They weren't always well-known, and they weren't always the best at what they do or did. You can only learn to become a brilliant filmmaker by being a filmmaker. There are plenty of up-and-coming filmmakers that deserve a chance for their work to be seen before being written off. Chbosky did a good job with Perks, and he'll likely only improve. There's no reason to believe that he could not one day be seen as a great filmmaker. Only time will really tell. If every new creative person looked around and thought "well, shit, Van Gogh/The Beatles/Scorsese did something kind of like that, better pack it in and not even try," we'd live in a very sad, uninspiring world indeed. 

 

As for Emma's choices, I trust her to pick projects she will enjoy. Firstly, I know that she has greater insight into the material and production at this point than any of us do, and probably has a clearer vision of what she wants to accomplish in this role. Secondly, even if she just wants to do it because it would be fun, she could spend time with old friends and make new ones, etc, I'm not going to fault her for that. I recently had the choice between a rather important corporate job that required international travel in Cambridge and I turned it down in favour of a more relaxed, and ultimately more fun life in Brighton, because I'm 25 and what I want right now is to enjoy myself. So, if Emma wants to choose roles that are a bit more fun, or stagger them between more serious roles like YVIMH, I totally understand that.



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:58 AM

Good. I just hope she chooses demanding roles, pushing her in her artistic life and not just roles, because she can hang out with old friends during filming.

 

 

@ ling: ;)  nice new pic


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:02 PM

Again, the young woman has more money that I can dare to imagine (same with Rupert and Dan)...these 3 can pick whatever they want...they are clearly not the types of actors who are accepting every job under the sun. They pick and choose...they can afford to do that. I hope this movie truly does go through...I would love to see Emma do some comedy of sorts :)


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#28 Jonny Carinthia

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

Even if you are rich it is NOT FORBIDDEN to make wise decisions....


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:55 PM

@ ling: ;)  nice new pic

 

Thanks. I stopped being blonde about a month ago so I thought I should change it. :) 



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 03:33 PM

But that is my point... the trio are making wise decisions...they could easily have taken every role offered to them-but they don't-they turn down things that don't feel right to them and to that I applaud them all. There are too many actors out there who I swear just pick roles just to have their name out there. Ling, ya look good girl! :)


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 04:42 PM

But that is my point... the trio are making wise decisions..

 

That's entirely YOUR opinion....


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

And to say they are not making wise decisions is only your opinion.

 

Which is a wiser choice? Pick roles based solely on what would further her career, or pick roles that are meaningful to her and she enjoys doing. I'd rather be happy than successful, and if Emma is happy, then I'd say she is both right now.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 04:48 AM

That's entirely YOUR opinion....

 

it really bugs me how no matter what she does ain't good at all, how she ruins her career, she's going to be even more in demand than now, film, beauty, fashion, there's nothing she cannot do,(actually there is smh she can't or won't do and that my friends is seeing your negativity, thank God). She'll thrive and you'll watch it with popcorn(optional). She has her solid fanbase, 10+ career, and good head on her shoulders with nothing to worry about, as she could turn to teaching english literature instead and never work again in film or related. Peace Out. Helen out.


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Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:37 AM

Dook, you missunderstand me (again). All I wanted to say is, that you cannot say "rich girl = always wise desicions". A (very) rich person like Emma has no need to make "wise" decisions at all. Because, and in that point cbmac is right, if a decision turns out to be rubbish or false, the person can say: "Oh, what a pitty. The movie flopped. Ah, neverless.... Come on, Sophie, let's go skiing in France....."

A "normal" person like you and me cannot make such decisions, because we have to think much longer an advance. We have to know how to pay the rent next month, how to feed ourselfs (or our childen) ecc. ecc. Emma with her millions can make 10 flops in a row and she will still be rich. So she is not making wise decisions, she is just doing what she wants, without fear for the future.


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:56 AM

I'd like to see her in this.

For the people who are doubting the story....I think we should all read the book before we decided whether it's going to be shitty or not.



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:51 AM

I'd like to see her in this.

For the people who are doubting the story....I think we should all read the book before we decided whether it's going to be shitty or not.

 

What "new features" can this story have? I cannot see the impact for her career. It's just another B or C-movie. Easy to play, with no real dramatic content. As long as she is appearing only in fairytale/phantasie/SiFimovies I consider her not as a "great actress". Her real proof of talent is yet to come......


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 08:36 AM

What "new features" can this story have? I cannot see the impact for her career.

While she may not generally lack job offers, by now I doubt by now that she has been offered a lot of good/ interesting roles (or movies). She took YVIMH, then it got cancelled, then she accepted again. At first I thought she only accepted to work with David Yates, but now it seems like she's willing to jump through a few hoops just to get a good role. Also she has admitted that there were some dry spells where she wouldn't get any offers at all.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 09:11 AM

Of course, YVIMH will be different. Far away from the "nice, clean girl-image". But, and this is the question, WHY are there dry spells with no offers? Hollywood (not counting the British film industry) produces how many movies each year? Without any possible parts for Emma???? Something in this picture is wrong, and I do not get it, what. Did she upset the studio-bosses during the last years with putting too many (good) offers down? Are her expectations too difficult to fullfill (and I do NOT mean the question of her salary)? Are there too many "no go" from her, making it difficult for producers to book her (50 Shades...)? Was it wrong from her to publish a list of "want to work with" people, means, upsetting other directors/actors by not naming them????


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

Are there too many "no go" from her, making it difficult for producers to book her (50 Shades...)?

Something like that, probably. Let's remember what she said back when HP ended: no more blockbusters, no more fantasy movies, no American highschool movies (she didn't stick to the latter two). Add some high standards and you have a recipe for unemployment.

50 Shades is a curious matter though. I'd really like to know why exactly that's a no go for her. Does she find the idea of a sex slave demeaning? Is it simply not her own preference/ not something she thinks she could do convincingly? Is it just the shoddy writing that turned her off?

"Ok, well, the 'hot bod' is not a characteristic."


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Posted 15 October 2013 - 11:54 AM

Something like that, probably. Let's remember what she said back when HP ended: no more blockbusters, no more fantasy movies, no American highschool movies (she didn't stick to the latter two). Add some high standards and you have a recipe for unemployment.

50 Shades is a curious matter though. I'd really like to know why exactly that's a no go for her. Does she find the idea of a sex slave demeaning? Is it simply not her own preference/ not something she thinks she could do convincingly? Is it just the shoddy writing that turned her off?

 

Ugh, a difficult topic. Difficult to discuss without getting the attention of the spanish inquisition......

 

I think she is influenced by various things in this case. Her upbringing (I do not think that she talked with her parents a lot about, uhm, reproduction), the erotic-free production of the Potter-movies (holding hands with shy smile means = we are a couple). Maybe she is - as she said herself - shy and not very self confident about her body and her effect on other people. I mean, even her photoshootings are set up on her hair, her well-proportioned face, her brown eyes and eyebrows and - her freckles. Nothing to say about this all - her eyes still driving me nuts - but is this all? And we should not forget the hypocrisy of the american people, when it comes to sex and nudity and the sometimes pervert reactions of the film industrie on that matter... ("Grettings from the Production Code!")

 

For a good actress it should be no question if you like personally a sexual practice, you have to perform in a non explicit form in a movie. It is - like many other things - part of the job and I think, the film industrie has a lot of things to make shooting such scenes decent and comfortable for all involved (see Keira Knightley in 'Dangerous Method').

"While we're young" will definitly not content such scenes. And so she is in a safe haven of a stressfree script by Chbosky, written to get no "R" or a more severe rating at the box office.


Edited by Jonny Carinthia, 15 October 2013 - 11:55 AM.

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