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So many theories every single time xD Loved the episode, it was worth the waiting. So many questions though. For starters what's up with Jason and Mona? And does his wound at the end look like a stab wound or a burn? Because I want to see if he was the one that Aria stabbed on Halloween or the one who tried to burn Meredith :P What's up with the creepy janitor as well ugh. And how does A always now everything I mean asdfghjkl

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Agreed with both of you!!! Awesome episdoe. I love all of Toby's creepy looks. Also I noticed that whenever Toby is around a questionable character they always exchange a look or too. Also creepy with Aria's dad!! I hate the storyline with Ezra's kid though. I wish they didn't do that. I was assuming that Jason was the burn and Lucas was the stabbing. But it's probably not that because its too obvious lol. Also who was that guy at the end with the bike?

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I'm so behind!! Haven't seen a lot of the 3rd season,but I know Mona is in a looney bin (Arie! Go few pages back when we were speculating and I said that Mona is A! Before the season 2 ended. HA! Called it),I knew that Nate dude is the psycho from the juvie camp from the first episode he showed up. I just knew it. I haven't seen an episode,but I know he's dead or severely injured or something. And I know Toby is a hooded hooligan. That's about it. Gotta catch up on the season 3.

 

P.S. Still pissed they killed Maya! And I'll be pissed forever. Unless she's actually alive. *fingers crossed* Does anyone know? Did they confirm she's actually dead?

 

P.P.S. Paige is one shady motherf***er and I want her to go away.

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I'm so behind!! Haven't seen a lot of the 3rd season,but I know Mona is in a looney bin (Arie! Go few pages back when we were speculating and I said that Mona is A! Before the season 2 ended. HA! Called it),I knew that Nate dude is the psycho from the juvie camp from the first episode he showed up. I just knew it. I haven't seen an episode,but I know he's dead or severely injured or something. And I know Toby is a hooded hooligan. That's about it. Gotta catch up on the season 3.

 

P.S. Still pissed they killed Maya! And I'll be pissed forever. Unless she's actually alive. *fingers crossed* Does anyone know? Did they confirm she's actually dead?

 

P.P.S. Paige is one shady motherf***er and I want her to go away.

 

Dude, watch it. Then talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dude, watch it. Then talk to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Okay, I scrapped some time, downloaded the episodes and...damn.

 

Where to start?

 

The whole Maya thing. Now that I’ve seen all the episodes and how it all played out, I’m even more pissed! The fuck? It was completely pointless storyline. It had nothing to do with A or Alison’s death. The way they hyped it up, what with ‘Maya knew’ crap, and the website, you would think it would be some mind-blowing revelation. But no. Just some psycho with major rejection problem. I knew that Nate dude was the camp guy. I just knew it. I don’t know how people didn’t see it right away, it was so ridiculously obvious.

 

Though, if you put your detective hat on, you could see that not once did he admit to killing Maya. Also, on the surveillance video that Noel sent to Spencer, Maya was snatched at his cabin, but her body was found in Emily’s back yard. Makes sense? No. Also, why does A have her purse? Unless there’s more to it, this storyline sucked ass!

 

Next, Spencer! My favourite character. She’s like the Hermione of the PLL group. The girls would be the equivalent of headless chickens running on the minefield without her. I love that Toby is a part of the A team! It makes perfect sense. I do feel bad for Spencer, but now she’ll be even crazier than before and I’m gonna love every second of it. Also, I don’t know if any of you noticed, but the A text Spencer got in the first episode – ‘Show me your boobs’ might as well be Toby! Haha, it so awkward, I love it.

 

To be honest, Aria/Ezra thing bores me to death. I really like Aria when she’s with the girls, especially Spencer, but the minute the focus is on Ezra I check out and everything is blah. Her mom is cool beans, her dad is a creepy fuck and her brother is...wait she has a brother?

 

Hanna is a lunatic, hence I love her. Unlike other’s love lives, which are almost excruciatingly boring, I like her and Caleb together. I like her grandma even more! Haha, nana is awesome sauce so I’m guessing Hanna takes after her.

 

I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but I like Jenna. I don’t think she has anything to do with A, I think the writers write her in a suspicious way just to throw us off. And they did, what with the Toby thing. She just doesn’t like the girls and who can blame her. I wouldn’t like them either if I was her.

 

So, to end this rambling, I think the writing is a little sloppier than with the previous seasons, but the show is still so freaking addictive. My guess for the big A is CC Drake, or however you spell her. I’m sure she has some major roll in all of this. Also, Wren. Not big A, cause according to Mona, big A is a girl, (anyone remembers when Mona called Aria ‘Big A’ in one of the episodes? Yeah, fishy), but he is involved somehow. I think the biggest clue is the writing in Dr. Sullivan’s office. ‘Nosey bitches die' or something like that – Nosey is a British spelling. Nosy is an American. He’s a doctor, so he has the money, access to medical records and drugs, he was with Mona at the loony bin, the massages, etc. I’m pretty sure he’s a part of the A team.

 

Oh, and I hate Paige. She’s 50/50 when it comes to the A team, but I want her gone 100 percent! The only chick I approve for Emily, aside from poor Maya, is Spencer! Now that would be the perfect pairing!

 

So, yeah. I guess now we wait and see. Especially can't wait to see the three girls on their own now that Spencer is bonkers!

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Okay, I scrapped some time, downloaded the episodes and...damn.

 

So happy you finally watched!! I have no clue how to respond to this insanely long ramble haha.

 

A few things did come to my mind.

 

There are some very fishy characters. I still think Paige is creepy. I am a little interested to see if Ezra is involved somehow. There have been a lot of rumors. Lately he has been weird. Oh and I totally agree that Ezria has gotten old. I still am not sure about Lucas. That story was super anti-climactic as well. Cece is weird. Jason is weird. Meredith needs to go. Lots of fishyness.

 

I agree about some of the writing going down hill as well. It seems that a lot of the storyline they started they dont want around anymore. They want to go a different route so they are ending them in sloppy ways in order to go a different direction. Like with Lucas. For months we were so worried about him and then one night he gives Hannah the answers? Doesn't fit. I think they just didn't like having that story line anymore.

 

I have been reading up on some rumors and spoilers when I am bored. Dr. Sulliven is going to come back so that should be intersting. Wren will be back and semi-invovled somehow with Spencer which I dislike. I mean we all heard what Mona said about head A being a she. I can't wait to hear Toby's story!!!

 

I read some interesting ideas on IMDB. Cath, I think you mentioned liking to go there from time to time. A lot of people think some or all the girls will eventually end up in Radly. Thats an interesting idea. They also are all going with the twin idea from the book which I hate. I hope the show doesnt end up the direction because it wouldn't be interesting.

 

I think there are some promising storylines coming up. I can't wait to see how Toby and Spencer play out. I did read something about a storyline with Emily's mom so that should be interesting.

 

Yay! lol

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So happy you finally watched!! I have no clue how to respond to this insanely long ramble haha.

 

Well, excuse me for having excessive thoughts on the subject.

 

 

Come on, it’s pll. Everyone is weird. Even their own shadows are weird. But yeah, Paige is super creepy. One thing that sticks in my mind and is the biggest thing I have against her is the text Emily got when she was dating that blond chick. Cause Emily was kinda involved with Paige but broke it off and started seeing Samara. Then Em gets an A text to slip her phone number to Samara’s friend, leading to her dumping Emily. Now why would A do that? She gains absolutely nothing from it. Unless the A text was from Paige, cause we know she’s been obsessed with Emily since forever. And all that bullshit she was spitting at Emily at the ball, I'll be here for you, for whatever you need, yada yada yada. It's like she already knew Maya was dead. She's just one of those characters that no matter what they do, good or bad, Imma hate their guts!

 

Cece is definitely a major factor in all of this. We know Alison sort of idolized her, so she must be some shady psycho. Alison didn’t give a shit about anyone, but she did about her and, what’s more, she didn’t tell the girls about her. Must be a good reason why.

 

I think Lucas is just a scapegoat in all of this. He’s no saint, but I think he’s sort of ‘wrong place at the wrong time’ kinda character. I don’t think he’s on the A team, he just did some dirty work for them without really knowing who they are or what their aim was. Also, I heard someone’s gonna die in the finale (again, oh what a shocker!) and if that's true, I think it’s him. Hanna pretty much dug his grave for him.

 

Oh, Mona. I read something interesting about that line. That the ‘They have to understand she’s in charge’ line actually refers to Spencer. That the liars have to understand that Spencer is their leader (not A team leader, but pll leader) and that the A team has to break Spence in order to flip all the girls on their asses. That’s why Toby said he’ll take care of it. And he left little clues for Spencer to figure everything out. Like the Radly pass, dropping the key and breaking into her house. He could have easily ran out of the house, but he didn’t cause he wanted Spencer to catch him. In order to break her, and consequently, break all the girls. Makes perfect sense.

 

I also hope they don’t go with the twins plot. Even though I know nothing about the books. I want the big A to be someone who’s gonna be a total surprise, but at the same time to make perfect sense. Just like with Toby.

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It was not a criticism!!! I love your long PLL posts!

 

Yeah Paige is super creepy but I really don't think they are going to do much with her character. I read somewhere a quote of them saying that no one else would be hurt like Spencer and Toby. Plus they already had Toby betray Spencer. I wouldn't want them to use that storyline again.

 

CeCe is interesting. Ali was supposedly so close with her but the girls never even saw her before? Weird. Also, the girls were so close to trust Cece!

 

I don't like what they did with Lucas. It made sense for him to be on the A team and they should have just kept it that way. He isn't really a big deal character anymore. It wouldn't have made much a difference. I don't think he would be killed because he doesn't seem to know anything.

 

I thought that originally too. I am going to guess that the writers want us to think either. It could be clue, who knows. I have read a lot of theorys and idk that Toby was in on the plan. It was pretty clear that Mona was. I mean Toby didn't really leave the clues, Mona did. They key fell out because of the hole in his pocket. The card was not visable, it was in a drawer. Don't forget Toby had no idea Spencer was going to be in his apartment. I think he didn't run because he knew she figured it out. That's why he asked her how long she knew. He knew he couldn't run because Spencer already figured it out. She showed him where she was putting the key and he took the bate. But they definitely broke Spencer. The next few episodes are going to show that.

 

Yeah I agree. I want it to be as epic as the Toby reveal.

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I know you do. I was pullin’ yo leg and displaying gratuitous usage of gifs.

 

 

Well, Paige doesn’t need to be a betrayer, she just needs to follow Emily’s pattern of disappearing girlfriends. Or better yet, true to her word, Spencer will destroy her! And then swoop Em of her feet and make usage of her nana’s couch.

 

Yeah, come to think of it, what happened to Spencer’s college application? The one she stupidly gave to Cece. I know she received an e-mail from the school, but something tells me Cece screwed her over big time. Or did they just chose to ignore that storyline altogether? Cause they seem to have made a habit of it!

 

I love the fact that Lucas is not on the A team! Because everything was pointing in that direction, so it would be easy and obvious if he was the baddy. Just like everything was pointing out that Toby is a saint and the moral high ground of Rosewood. Yeah, my ass. I like the unexpected. I always like Lucas as a character, even when he was throwing tantrums around. I think he is important, and that he does know stuff, which is why when Hanna was telling Mona off and mentioned Lucas, I thought: ‘Oh, oh. He’s fucked!’ Mona was obviously using him and probably expected him to stay silent, but knowing that Hanna knows, he’s a dead man walking. I mean, why would Toby want to run him over? He knows shit!

 

Okay, yeah, Mona probably left clues, but I do think she was referring to Spencer when she said that line. In order to completely knock the girls over, they needed to ‘eliminate’ Spence. She’s in charge. Heck, even Alison’s knickers were shaking from the thought of the mighty Spencer Effin’ Hastings! Can’t wait for the bonkers Spence, I hear she’s gonna go apeshit on Mona’s ass! Haha, can’t wait to see that!

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My love for Spencer Hastings has just gone up one billion notches!

 

She stole the episode. The new Spencer is a badass mofo and I love it! I loved her before,but now I wanna kneel and kiss the ground she walks on. Every single word that came out of her mouth was god's honest truth. Finally someone called Ali out on her bullshit and on their own. The toilet scene with Emily and the kitchen scene with Aria were spot on. Plus,the walking out of the study room was legendary. I mean,I'm blown away by Spencer in this episode.

 

Hanna!! Haha,I love that lunatic. I was in stitches whenever she was on screen. Especially the gay club scene and then the convo with Ashley,who by the way,is the coolest parent on the show. Or tied with Emily's dad. Anyways,I'm still laughing just thinking about Hanna in this episode.

 

Emily and Aria...meh. I loved Emily's scene with Spencer,(you two just hook up already!)but other than that those two just flew by me. I saw the sneak peek,so I know Paige is not cheating. Major bummer. Go away, you psycho! Go away!

 

The promo for next week? Wow. I'm pretty sure Em did not kill Alison,they just manipulated the promo. There's no way they would give it out so easily. I'm thinking she's protecting Ali from someone. Also,this means the girls were drugged that night if Em needs hypnotherapy to remember it. What's up with all the narcotics? And they send poor Maya to druggie camp cause of some weed. I'm judging them.

 

Also,the what's-his-name detective? Here we go again. Newest shady bastard,just like daddy Montgomery,Garrett,Ian,and a few hundred more. Did Ali knew the whole bloody town? I mean,Spencer was right. She was sluttin' it up in three different zip codes. All more disturbing by the fact that she was what,15? Creepy stuff is creepy.

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