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ahaha i know, a pervert understands a fellow pervert. Ohhhh "only" 190 oh alright i'm 158 yeah not big deal.. But still, i agree you'll be on you knees, preferably holding a ring as well. Sounds goooood. haha yes only i have that privilege *big grin* I didn't save them though I only kept the one with the dalmatian..because of the dog ONLY hmpf!