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#1 Jonny Carinthia

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Posted 12 June 2014 - 02:25 PM

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Are those "outtakes" really authorised by her or her management? On pic one she looks like pregnant, on pic two like she has a dental problem, only pic three is a nicer one.....


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 04:08 PM

Yeah, Emma's PR was definitely consulted for a tumblr post that only a couple thousand people will ever see.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 04:25 PM

Yeah, Emma's PR was definitely consulted for a tumblr post that only a couple thousand people will ever see.

 

Ok, but these are "outtakes". I understand outtakes as pictures, not selected for publication. They should remain with the magazine or the photographer. So why is it possible that they are posted on tumblr? What is with the copyright? I think nobody would post such official pics (out of a shoot, Emma was definitly payed for) without permission.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 04:45 PM

Who says anyone had permission to post them?



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 05:15 PM

The photos are posted by EMMA WATSON DAILY DOT ORG. Known for allegedly stealing photos to only post them on tumblr and her mentioned website as tagged or LQ. 



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Are those "outtakes" really authorised by her or her management? On pic one she looks like pregnant, on pic two like she has a dental problem, only pic three is a nicer one.....

she does not look pregnant!


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 05:17 PM

You don't need permission if the copyright holder doesn't find out about it and/or just doesn't care.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 06:16 PM

You don't need permission if the copyright holder doesn't find out about it and/or just doesn't care.

Mariano Vivanco saw that his photos are tagged online by her and I don't see any actions taken by him so people might not care so much.


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Posted 12 June 2014 - 08:22 PM


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I admit the first one looks a little weird, but dental problem on this one? Her teeth look perfectly ok to me...



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Posted 12 June 2014 - 09:43 PM

I saw them on tumblr
She looks cute!

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:05 AM

On pic one she looks like pregnant

Haha agree on that ! 

 

Ok, but these are "outtakes". I understand outtakes as pictures, not selected for publication. They should remain with the magazine or the photographer. So why is it possible that they are posted on tumblr? 

I always wondered !! 


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 10:35 AM

I think out takes are just photos from the photoshoot that are released but not in the magazines.

That's just my guess.

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 01:02 PM

I think out takes are just photos from the photoshoot that are released but not in the magazines.

That's just my guess.

yes that is what outtakes mean and are.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 02:08 PM

Official definition of a "outtake" (mind the red written words):

 

A blooper, also known as an outtake or gag reel, is a short sequence of a film or video production, usually a deleted scene, containing a mistake made by a member of the cast or crew.

 

I do not think that Emma is happy about her mistakes (and these pics are mistakes) to be published.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 02:22 PM

That's not what it means in fashion photography.

 

You take hundreds of photos in a shoot, and you can't use them all.

 

Everything you don't use is an outtake.

 

Here's 700 outtakes from 2009: http://postimg.org/gallery/to9rt6s/


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 02:33 PM

What he ^ said.

 

And Emma may not be happy when some photos from a shoot that are less than flattering are used or posted, but there is not much she can do about it. They aren't her photos, they belong to the copyright holder. And again, it's not like the photos were posted with permission.

 

So, no matter how you try and twist things, it's not the fault of Emma or her management.



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 03:10 PM

What he ^ said.

 

And Emma may not be happy when some photos from a shoot that are less than flattering are used or posted, but there is not much she can do about it. They aren't her photos, they belong to the copyright holder. And again, it's not like the photos were posted with permission.

 

So, no matter how you try and twist things, it's not the fault of Emma or her management.

 

 I never said that it is Emmas fault or a mistake of her management. I asked why they do nothing against such creepy "outtakes".


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 03:32 PM

What would you suggest they do? The photos don't belong to Emma, and in the case of someone just posting them on tumblr, there's really nothing they (Emma and her people) can do.



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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:13 PM

 I never said that it is Emmas fault or a mistake of her management. I asked why they do nothing against such creepy "outtakes".

work can never be described as creepy, this is her work, they shot for a whole day I am sure. They try numerous make-up looks, wardrobe changes, angles, light set-ups etc to GET THE PERFECT ONES to be published in the magazine(or whatever the purpose of the shoot is, maybe it's for a fashion campaign, or anything else). There's no such thing as creepy outtakes but then again, you're the biggest fan.


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:19 PM

 There's no such thing as creepy outtakes but then again, you're the biggest fan.

 

I am her fan; and out of that I say that such creepy outtakes never should be released. And I cannot imagine, that she does not have her hands on the copyrights. The "right of the own picture" is valid also in GB. Except, of course, she sold all rights. B)


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Posted 13 June 2014 - 04:56 PM

No, she would not hold the copyrights for the photos. "Right of own picture" or rights of publicity/privacy would apply if posting the pictures was for commercial use or she could prove they were damaging to her in some way, not just posting them on tumblr. And no, she did not sell the rights. They weren't hers to begin with. She would likely have signed a model release, that's all.

 

And you continue to ignore that the photos were not "released". Likely someone hacked an online account of the photographer or agency and found the photos.






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