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Just a note about 50 Shades: The actor who was meant to play the lead male role pulled out of the film just the other day and I've heard it's not because of "scheduling conflicts" as they tried to lead everyone to believe. So, in the case of that particular role, it seems like NOBODY is really willing to do it. Which is a good thing because it's a disgusting book that glamourizes an abusive relationship (and, no, I am not anti-BDSM in general-- er, for other people-- but the portrayal of that in the series is NOT a healthy BDSM relationship). 

 

As for any actress' willingness to do any type of simulated sex on screen... choosing to do so or not to do so is her prerogative. If she doesn't want to then she doesn't want to and that is the END of the story, just as ANY woman or man has a say in what they do with their own body.

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Just a note about 50 Shades: The actor who was meant to play the lead male role pulled out of the film just the other day and I've heard it's not because of "scheduling conflicts" as they tried to lead everyone to believe. So, in the case of that particular role, it seems like NOBODY is really willing to do it. Which is a good thing because it's a disgusting book that glamourizes an abusive relationship (and, no, I am not anti-BDSM in general-- er, for other people-- but the portrayal of that in the series is NOT a healthy BDSM relationship). 

 

As for any actress' willingness to do any type of simulated sex on screen... choosing to do so or not to do so is her prerogative. If she doesn't want to then she doesn't want to and that is the END of the story, just as ANY woman or man has a say in what they do with their own body.

 

Of course, doing a movie like "50 Shades" needs very good actors.Healthy is, what the involved persons considering healthy for themselves.

But 50 Shades is only the tip of the iceberg of turned down projects by Emma. So.....

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IMDB has a Sam Taylor-Johnson listed for director, is that still up to date? Because she doesn't exactly seem to have much experience in the feature film category.

Which is probably why people are copping out; not because it's particularly disgusting, but if you want to get naked and kinky with low production values, you could just do porn.

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Yes, she should. But a sophisticated one, written and directed by Richard Curtis (for example), not this rubbish.

 

Richard Curtis = sophisticated? Hardly. He had some movies that weren't that good. And to call this rubbish right away without even do some research it speaks how ridiculous your judgment is. For your information, the writers of 500 Days of Summer will be writing this one. 500 Days of Summer is one of the most critically acclaimed movies in 2009.

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Richard Curtis = sophisticated? Hardly. He had some movies that weren't that good. And to call this rubbish right away without even do some research it speaks how ridiculous your judgment is. For your information, the writers of 500 Days of Summer will be writing this one. 500 Days of Summer is one of the most critically acclaimed movies in 2009.

 

Even if William Shakespeare would write the script for the movie, it would not be better. My critic is, that she (Emma) is (again) wasting time and talent for a movie, which plot was used again and again in the past. It is not new, it is not inventive, it is not demanding - just ... old. It's the same like with "Beauty and the Beast". By chance - switching through the tv-channels - I saw a version of "B&B" from 1933 (!). In Black and White and maybe the first sound version. This story is also told so many times that it is far away from beeing new, inventive, demanding.

 

I do not care if Chbosky is doing another version of a very old story - but I care for Emma and I want her to take parts, giving her the possibility to be a real actress, putting all her artistic talent (which is never challenged in movies like this one) in it.

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Even if William Shakespeare would write the script for the movie, it would not be better. My critic is, that she (Emma) is (again) wasting time and talent for a movie, which plot was used again and again in the past. It is not new, it is not inventive, it is not demanding - just ... old. It's the same like with "Beauty and the Beast". By chance - switching through the tv-channels - I saw a version of "B&B" from 1933 (!). In Black and White and maybe the first sound version. This story is also told so many times that it is far away from beeing new, inventive, demanding.

 

I do not care if Chbosky is doing another version of a very old story - but I care for Emma and I want her to take parts, giving her the possibility to be a real actress, putting all her artistic talent (which is never challenged in movies like this one) in it.

 

But you're assuming that this movie will be rubbish right away. There's no script yet! The plot sounds iffy but a little twist here and there could make a difference.

 

BTW most movies these days are not really original, even some of the most critically acclaimed movies in the past,

 

You have movies with similar Holocaust/Nazi themes like Schindler’s List, Sophie's Choice, The Reader, etc.

 

About war themes? Like Platoon, Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, etc.

 

Some of these movies are not rubbish. It's all about the execution, writing, acting and how they will put some twist into it.

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I have to repeat myself: the plot is of no relevance for me; but this movie will not push her in any way in her artistic life. It is just a feelgood movie, she has to look pretty, nice, .......

 

What I want - and I take your suggestions into account - are parts in DIFFICULT movies. Let's take Schindlers List, for example. Beeing part of the cast of this movie was a artistic challange in any way - I think movies like this one pushing the actors to their limits. Bringing the horror of the concentration camps, the Holocaust and the war REALISTIC on screen is real acting art. I remember a interview with the german actors of Schindlers List. They told, that there was never a more difficult movie to do.

 

Not that I want to see Emma in a Wartime movie, but do you understand what I try to say? She is not growing in her abilities with such "Sunday afternoon"-movies. She is still the breathless beautiful girl, casted to play Beauties (!), College-Girls (good or bad), fairies in fairytales......

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I have to repeat myself: the plot is of no relevance for me; but this movie will not push her in any way in her artistic life. It is just a feelgood movie, she has to look pretty, nice, .......

 

What I want - and I take your suggestions into account - are parts in DIFFICULT movies. Let's take Schindlers List, for example. Beeing part of the cast of this movie was a artistic challange in any way - I think movies like this one pushing the actors to their limits. Bringing the horror of the concentration camps, the Holocaust and the war REALISTIC on screen is real acting art. I remember a interview with the german actors of Schindlers List. They told, that there was never a more difficult movie to do.

 

Not that I want to see Emma in a Wartime movie, but do you understand what I try to say? She is not growing in her abilities with such "Sunday afternoon"-movies. She is still the breathless beautiful girl, casted to play Beauties (!), College-Girls (good or bad), fairies in fairytales......

 

 

What the heck?Like what I said there's NO SCRIPT YET. And let's see she did Perks which was a critically acclaimed movie. She did the Bling Ring with Sofia Coppola. She will be in Darren Aronofsky's Noah. Her roles (small/big part) are diverse. She's not doing Harry Potter anymore. She will be working with some of the finest directors/writers in the industry. Regarding Beauty and the Beast project, well, Guillermo del Toro is a no-name director. Have you seen Pan's Labyrinth? One of the best movies in 2006. I don't know what are you complaining about. Her career progression is impressive. You just can't be edgy all the time because it doesn't work that way. You need to explore what you have. You can't have every role in this business. Emma needs experience. That's why working with different directors/writers is a good thing for her.

 

All the best actresses in the world don't have a perfect resume. Roles they think are good but somewhat ended flat. You never know. That's why they explore whether the plot is good or not for others. At the end of the day the execution of the film matters.

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Her  career is - what?  Feelgood movies, always casted for the same type, no real drama (maybe Yvimh will change that), after Potter not one real "A"-List movie. Noah - first previews with "disturbing results" - production firm presses director to do a re-cut (yup, a sign for a very good movie), Beauty and the Beast - fairytale, Emma's only real challange is to be pretty during the whole movie. "This is the end" - highlight a discussion about how to rape Emma Watson (yes, a cineastic highlight!), Bling Ring - well, for us Europeans only a movie about crazy Americans.....

 

Sorry, you cannot change my opinion: a real dramatic part for her ist still to come and she is wasting time and talent for B and C-movies.....

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Her  career is - what?  Feelgood movies, always casted for the same type, no real drama (maybe Yvimh will change that), after Potter not one real "A"-List movie. Noah - first previews with "disturbing results" - production firm presses director to do a re-cut (yup, a sign for a very good movie), Beauty and the Beast - fairytale, Emma's only real challange is to be pretty during the whole movie. "This is the end" - highlight a discussion about how to rape Emma Watson (yes, a cineastic highlight!), Bling Ring - well, for us Europeans only a movie about crazy Americans.....

 

Sorry, you cannot change my opinion: a real dramatic part for her ist still to come and she is wasting time and talent for B and C-movies.....

 

I'm not trying to convince you or anything because you sound like a broken record and a know it all as if you know better. Like what I said she needs an experience, she's working with some of the finest writers/directors around. I like her career progression. She will get that mature roles once she has the experience under her belt.

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BTW most movies these days are not really original, even some of the most critically acclaimed movies in the past

That's not a problem if the plot is realistic, maybe mundane. If you copy ideas that are far out there, it's much harder to find a good reason for it. There's a reason why fantasy literature that is derivative of Tolkien gets downgraded because of that.
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Noah - first previews with "disturbing results" - production firm presses director to do a re-cut (yup, a sign for a very good movie), Beauty and the Beast - fairytale, Emma's only real challange is to be pretty during the whole movie. 

Concerning Noah, it was said that the audience giving bad feedback was composed of many religious people. Religious people criticizing a religious subject, for me that won't influence my vision of the movie. I'm agnostic, so I have different expectations and I won't let those people that have a different opinion interfer with mine. 

The studios said that the movie had to be recut to be less touchy, that's not saying it was badly done, just saying that religious people had problems with it. That's not the first movie to raise controversy. 

 

Concerning Beauty and the Beast, having seen Pan's Labyrinth I must say I expect much more from it that Emma being "beautiful and that's all". When you read the story of Pan's labyrinth, you imagine a nice story for children - well that movie deeply shocked me and I won't never ever watch it again. So we can expect Del Toro to make a very special adaptation of the classic story of Beauty and the Beast.  

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IMO all the movie roles she's been doing post Potter, have been to teach her lessons--in MWWM, she learned 

about the American tragedy that was Marilyn Monroe. She learned how lonely and used MM really was and couple

that with drugs/alcohol, she learned how nasty and evil Hollywood is.

 

In Perks, she learned about American high schools, and how awkward/lonely those years can be. She saw first hand

how the American school system is and all the expectations that go hand in hand with growing up in the US. (Brown

is also teaching her the American college system).

 

The Bling Ring she saw first hand--via Paris Hilton, how materialistic, greedy, and nasty Hollywood is. She saw how

fans want a piece of the action, and will steal to be a part of their favorite stars world. She's seeing how shallow celebrities

really are.

 

All these movies she's seeing close up why JKR didn't want HP filmed in Hollywood--it's full of greedy, lonely, drugged, 

snotty people, who can never get enough $$$ and fame.

 

All 3 are in the same boat, and Dan/Rupert are learning the same lessons. They were all very sheltered in Leavesden,

and that was their world for over 10 years.

 

When she's done sampling the movie world, she's going to do what she's meant to do: BE A FULL TIME ACTIVIST. 

 

She's really a beacon of hope for "waking people up", especially little kids and teens. There's so much to be done, and

so little time. 

 

The People Tree paved the way for that and she's also been taking humanitarian and eco classes @ Brown too. That's going

to be her best role in life!!!

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