You make Christianity seem like it's some sort of materialised procedure. Like, us Christian are little robots who visit the same place and hear the same things every sunday without understanding them, without praying? Excuse me, i don\t wanna seem blunt but you give the wrong impression about Christianity to people who don;t know it well so you make Arie think that Judaism differs from Christianity because Judaism is based on having a relationship with God? Whereas Christianity isn't? Please now, i hope you mean something else.
My religion is completely based on a relationship with God as well. Yes my religion, not my relationship with God. We go to Church, we pray! We listen to the chants, we pray! We get lost in the Church, we come closer to God, we feel, we pray! We're not what you said above. My religion is a living religion.
YAYY everyone cleared their conflicts up! I wouldn't have said anything but I think that confronting different beliefs is really really REALLY important to understanding them, even if someone doesn't accept it. So good job guys *thumbs up*
I think Joe meant religion in a really basic sense of the word - like the ritual aspect of it. Yes religion usually includes a relationship with God (I don't think anyone would say that that's not important) but a big part of religion is going to church, temple, mosque, etc, and performing the rituals. Like in the Catholic church, it's about eating the body and blood of Christ.
That being said, the ritual as well as the relationship combined are what *really* makes religion. Religion is a super complex thing and there is no way that any religion will EVER be uncomplicated.
I also agree with you Joe, that many people try to shy away from the "Flanders" type of person, and most religion is sooooo much more than that. For example, when I say I'm catholic to people the first reaction I get from a lot of them is "uhh all priests are pedophiles. you dont believe in gay marriage and abortion?" and I'm like "okay. well firstly, not all priests are pedophiles, these pedophile are PEOPLE which happened to be PRIESTS. Secondly, I do support gay marriage, and yes, I am pro-choice." and people are just kinda like
There have also been many a time where I've had to forgo something because I had church, or a holy day. Perfect example: next sunday, my school is going to see Spamalot and I was all set to go, and then at church I was reminded that it is Palm Sunday and I'm reading So I'm really bummed that I can't go, but hey, that's how it works sometimes.